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Kill Joy

EXCUSE ME???? WTF did I just read?

Posted on 2012.06.07 at 09:00
Current Mood: enraged
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So you know how yesterday I was all "Oh, the FF.net thing is irritating, but I'll just back up my fics and say to hell with it"?

Yeah, that was yesterday afternoon.

Yesterday evening I got this ... review. I'm posting the first part of it here because I forgot to save it in its entirety. Which is fine, because really just the first paragraphs are enough to piss you right the hell off.

We have been observing and waiting...Those who are kept waiting to long could
get creative and issue public notices like the one served to the author
Purplerhino (below*) . Consider this a compliment; your work is worth notice
and followup. Not that you need the ego boost. It has not escaped our notice
that your normally finish what you start. You could think about taking it down
or handpicking another author finish it. Otherwise it's just another in a long
line of the unfinished and no one thinks this story deserves to be on that
stagnate list.

*We the public on fanfiction have been waiting for "Purplerhino" to finish
"Perchance To..." for years. The aforementioned author has had adequate time
to finish this story. This is a clear case of story abandonment. *see fine
print below* Further more in the case of said abandoned story: "Perchance
To...", we the public on fanfiction claim ownership of Perchance To... and are
donating its creative entirety to any accomplished author willing to finish
this story.

*thepublicswish does not encourage or condone plagiarism of claimed,completed
material by active or inactive writers on  . The exception being with the
express permission of owner or author(s)of abandoned incomplete material.

this public court finds this arrangement benefits all and could end the
plagiarism epidemic currently causin...


EXCUSE ME????



I'm supposed to be COMPLIMENTED by this? Thank FUCK they pointed that out, because otherwise I'd have just been insulted by the whole freaking thing.

Suggesting that they have the right to put my unfinished fic up for adoption by someone else... I have no words. Just streams of steam coming out of my ears.

If one wanted to be technical about this sort of thing, one might argue that what they want to do is write fanfiction about my fanfiction. And it seems kinda silly to be pissed about it in that light. Somehow I'm still pissed.

I found this tumblr entry which is talking about this same "reviewer" and they express my feelings on it much more eloquently than I'm capable of at the moment: http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/thepublicswish

So I read that last night, just before I was about to go to bed. I'd already finished backing up all my FF.net stories and most of my reviews, including the reviews on that particular story. Since "thepublicswish" (and who the FUCK made them the mouth person for public opinion? Oh, that's right, their own egotistical assery) is an anonymous account, I couldn't reply to them directly. So I replied on my FF.net profile with the following statement and apology to the rest of my readers.

My apologies to the thousands of incredibly polite wonderful people who have supported and loved my stories all these years. This is not for you.

Dear thepublicswish,

First of all, thank you for informing me that I should be "complimented" because my story was worth noticing. I barely noticed the compliment beneath the rest of the insulting pile of bullsh*t you just tossed my way. No, I "don't need an ego boost"--I'm absolutely arrogant enough as it is.

Arrogant enough, in fact, to say emphatically that what I write--no one else will finish except for me. No I will not adopt my fic out for someone else to finish. No one else lives in my head, no one else knows what twists and turns that story is supposed to take. I'm not one of those authors who just makes it up as she goes along. I plot my stories out from beginning to end. I have notes and backstory and reams written that YOU WILL NEVER SEE.

And I have all the end chapters. I usually write them about the same time as I'm writing the beginning chapters.

I know how "Dangers Untold" ends. Only two other people in the world have read it. One of them passed away.

I know how "DUST" ends... and I'm still writing it. I have ten chapters that I haven't finished editing.

Yes I do normally finish what I start. And I will finish all of my stories. Someday.

But I have a life. And a job. And a family. I have other hobbies and passions. I have a fickle muse that turns her nose up at me sometimes and refuses to come out and play. And until she does the story will wait.

But it sounds as if you do not have a life, if you have the time to send me such insulting emails. It sounds as if you've never had writer's block--which tells me you're one of those vain authors who are only in it for the reviews. It sounds to me like it's really bothering you an awful lot that I have an uncompleted fic languishing here for you to go back and re-read and enjoy.

So I'm taking it down until it's finished.

I'm taking all of my unfinished fics down, in fact.

Had you worded your email politely, maybe asked me if/when I was planning to finish it, or asked if you could adopt it... you probably wouldn't have pissed me off. Instead you chose to write me the most insulting (and poorly spelled) letter imaginable, implying that not only was I an ego driven author too lazy to get off my butt and write, but that it was an actual CRIME for me to not just hand it over to someone else to finish--and if I wasn't going to do it myself, you were going to do it for me.

Well, I hope you're happy. If anyone asks, you're the reason we can't have nice things.

Sincerely,

KnifeEdge

To everyone else,

I'm sorry. It's been bothering me for years that these stories are unfinished. I do intend to finish them someday, but between the entitlement queen who pissed me off this evening and the rumors of the site going on a censorship spree from this morning... I think it's safer if I take these stories down and post them elsewhere.

If you wondered what happened to "Dangers Untold", "Shove's Tale" and "DUST" ... the first two have been taken down completely and will be reposted when they are finished. I have archived all your reviews, because they have made me smile a great deal over the years and I've appreciated every single one.

"DUST" is up on several prominent Spuffy websites, as well as on my livejournal. You can find me there under the name knifeedgefic.

I have backed up all of my stories and reviews, just in case the censors decide they want to play hardball. I will always be available on Livejournal if you really do miss me.


Did I overreact?

Probably.

Am I somewhat relieved that my two longest "on hiatus" stories are no longer online to garner "PLEASE FINISH THIS!!!" reviews? Yeah, pretty much.

I probably will finish them someday, and then I'll clean them up and repost them here. Or somewhere else. And I feel bad because there are a lot of people who had favorited those stories and who liked to re-read them occasionally, finished or not. But that number wasn't substantial enough to make me leave it up when ass-hats like "thepublicswish" are prepared to offer my fic up to all and sundry to finish.

And if anyone even THINKS about suggesting I adopt out "DUST"... there will be blood.



Comments:


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Subtilior
subtilior at 2012-06-07 13:31 (UTC) (Link)
... holy shit. I'd say that dear little publicwish has balls, but somehow this the greed cancels out the audacity. Ugh. Ugh, ugh, ugh. Let me know if you track this individual down and want to unleash Fans with Flamethrowers. /creepy, maybe, but WHO CARES.

*hugs you*

(also: way to play hardball!)
Knife Edge
knifeedgefic at 2012-06-07 14:40 (UTC) (Link)
Ooooh, Fans with Flamethrowers. I like this plan.

Also: I have missed you! OMG where've you been???

ginar369
ginar369 at 2012-06-07 13:37 (UTC) (Link)
Crap. I haven't read those other stories yet!

Luckily I am not one of those people who think I can finish another authors work for them. Hell I have stories on my favorites on FF that haven't had an update for YEARS!!! I wait patiently, with the occasional email to the author to check to see if they plan to update. I would never suggest finishing someone else's work. Although there are a few stories out there that after reading I could see a sequel take shape in my mind. But again I would never presume to do so. Nor have I ever even considered asking the author for permission to do so.

But for "thepublicwish" to put that in an review? At the very least a pm would have been more appropriate. Even then it was rude and ill-mannered.
Knife Edge
knifeedgefic at 2012-06-07 14:14 (UTC) (Link)
Well, DUST is up here if you want to read it.

The other two are very old Labyrinth fics of mine. But if you read "Immortal Love" and absolutely must know what happens next, feel free to PM me or email me and I'll send you a copy of what I had posted.

And yes... there are SO many good stories out there that are unfinished and might never be. I re-read them occasionally because I remember them fondly and I hope that they've updated... but no.

I would NEVER be so presumptuous as to presume that I should pick up that story where someone left off. Not unless they specifically asked me to and I had every single note or thought they'd ever had about that story right in front of me for reference and the original author to consult with. And even THEN I still might not, because nothing I could make up would be what they'd intended.

And yeah... a PM would have been nice. But then it wouldn't have been as anonymous. Or as much of a threat.
Lirazel
penny_lane_42 at 2012-06-07 13:40 (UTC) (Link)
People be crazy.
Knife Edge
knifeedgefic at 2012-06-07 14:15 (UTC) (Link)
I love your icon. That is all. :)
Scattered Logic
scatteredlogic at 2012-06-07 13:59 (UTC) (Link)
People really are entitled little shits, aren't they? If your story turns up in another incarnation (since it seems as if this idiot is saying they're going to dole these stories out to be continued by someone else), let us know. ~cracks knuckles~
Knife Edge
knifeedgefic at 2012-06-07 14:23 (UTC) (Link)
Yeah... If I EVER find my fic somewhere and "finished" there will be blood.

The thing is... I did write the end chapters of "Dangers Untold" ages and ages ago. A few years back, I had a reader send me a PM. She had a friend who was in the hospital dying of cancer. Her friend was really into fanfiction and so she read stories to her out loud to pass the time. She wanted to know if I was planning to finish "Dangers" any time soon because her friend really wanted to know how it ended before she died.

It could have been a ploy of some kind, or whatever, but it seemed sincere. I asked a few questions and was satisfied enough by the answers that I agreed to send them a summary of the rest of "Dangers Untold and the final chapter as written ... which ironically (perhaps?) is about transformations from one life to the next (not dying, exactly, but it could be read that way).

Several days after I sent the chapter, I received another message from the friend, thanking me. She said that her friend had passed away the night before, but that before that they'd had a chance to finish the story and it had made her happy. It broke my heart a little. But I've always been glad I did that.

THAT is how you reach out to an author. Well, I would prefer that the person in question wasn't dying in order to do it. But the politeness and sincerity make a huge difference.
ladypeyton
ladypeyton at 2012-06-07 14:15 (UTC) (Link)
Wow. That's really rude. And really arrogant, too. I wouldn't read a continuation of DUST that wasn't written by you. It wouldn't *be* DUST. I'm not here for the story. I'm here because the writing is extraordinary.

I have ten chapters that I haven't finished editing.

I can't even say how excited this makes me feel. I know it will take some time to finish the editing an get it to a place where you feel it's ready to put up, but it's like whenever there was any kind of gossip off of the set of The Avengers. Just acknowledging that there is this thing out there that I'm really excited about and it's being worked on is enough to make me all flavors of thrilled.
Noelle
spuffy_noelle at 2012-06-07 14:15 (UTC) (Link)
Um that message was not only insulting, but kinda creepy? The way publicswish kept saying "we" sounded cult-ish. It actually reminded me of the creepy Bringers in season 7. Either way you did not overreact. People have some SERIOUS social skills problems if they thought that was okay to write!
Barb
rahirah at 2012-06-07 14:22 (UTC) (Link)
There have been quite a few entitled little weenieheads who run around fandom doing this sort of thing over the years, and in my experience, it never comes to anything. They're trolls. They have no serious desire to see fics finished, they just want to piss off writers.

It is infuriating, but in the end, they're not worth losing sleep over.
Knife Edge
knifeedgefic at 2012-06-07 14:29 (UTC) (Link)
Oh, probably. And they succeeded in pissing me off.

I did a google search on this particular little twit. They do seem to be attached to an actual person--although always anonymous. It highly amuses me that most of the "reviews" they leave on other sites include detailed complaints about bad punctuation or grammar...
Amie
wickedgillie at 2012-06-07 15:22 (UTC) (Link)
the fuck? Yeah. That is SO not cool. I think you were spot on.

Now, I can understand "please finish this" reviews so long as they're posted with appreciation rather than a sense of rudeness and entitlement. But nobody gets to decide if YOUR work should be continued by somebody else except for YOU.
ada_kaleena
ada_kaleena at 2012-06-07 16:04 (UTC) (Link)
I don't think you overreacted. I have an account on FF.net and love "West of the Moon..." & "DUST" and have favorited many stories in which the author hasn't updated in a long time. As a reader, I have to say what the haywire!! How dare someone put up a message saying that your story will be considered for the public's "adoption"?! Donating the story to the public. Honestly? That sounds like stealing the rights to me. They're pretty much stealing the ownership if they feel that they have to take it upon themselves to take what's already been written and finish it while putting their name on the finished product without the creator's consent (or giving the authorization for it). The voice of the public? Wow, I guess I missed the election.

Authors aren't supposed to be at the mercy of the audience. If real life demands attention, then real life gets dibs. Speaking for myself, I say take all the time you need to finish your story so that you will be satisfied with the result. I'll still look forward to reading what you write when you feel you are in a good spot to do so.
lostboy_lj
lostboy_lj at 2012-06-07 16:09 (UTC) (Link)
I think it's just a troll. Or maybe a hobgoblin.

Probably shouldn't take your stuff down, though. That would be like letting the terrorists win.
Knife Edge
knifeedgefic at 2012-06-07 18:59 (UTC) (Link)
Well, maybe, maybe not?

I did some searching. It seems as though this does seem to be attached to an actual person. Just one that doesn't have a real account on the sites where she chooses to "review." I've read some of her reviews on other sites and it seems like she legitimately reads stuff. She's just really kind of a twat.

That doesn't negate troll status. It just upgrades her to asshole.
Lexi
eilowyn at 2012-06-07 16:13 (UTC) (Link)
Here. Have some angry gifs. This post is missing some angry gifs.
Buffy Bite Me
Jeff What the hell is wrong with you?
Buffy Practice Fighting
Puppet!Angel fangs
liz tosses table

I don't have a WTF gif. So let me just say WTF?
jacquieburbank
jacquieburbank at 2012-06-07 16:19 (UTC) (Link)
Wow, just the sheer arrogance and entitlement of this person is astounding. I'm just flabbergasted.

I completely understand your decision to remove your stories, but as a fan, I'd like to let you know: a lot of us don't mind that a good story is unfinished; I know I don't. Does the fact that it doesn't (yet) end, may never end, invalidate or somehow diminish all of the lovely writing up until that point? Make the dialogue less memorable? Nah. Some of the favorites that I read over and over again are unfinished and likely always will be.

Please don't feel embarrassed about your unfinished work; what you do is a gift to a community, and that community should be grateful to receive whatever you're able to manage. Sometimes inspiration just takes you in another direction, and I just cannot understand how a person reading this lovely work *for free*, feels they have the right to bitch you out over that.
Knife Edge
knifeedgefic at 2012-06-07 19:03 (UTC) (Link)
I'm usually one of those in the "I don't mind unfinished stuff" camp. I love to reread favorite stories even though I know there is probably no chance of an update.

Hope is such a cruel thing. :)

But in the case of these two particular stories Labyrinth stories: the ONLY place they were posted was in the Pit of Voles. And the entitlement queens there really get on my nerves. This is the worst, and more infuriating of the comments I've gotten, but there have been plenty up till now with demands that I update. Add to that the rumors flying about fics being yanked for minor infractions of the "No MA content" rule... yeah, I don't feel bad about taking them down.
vamp1987
vamp1987 at 2012-06-07 17:01 (UTC) (Link)
Why would anyone think they have the right to tell you what to do with your fiction. I don't blame you for pulling them. I'll be a little sad that I can't go back and review them to remind myself why I loved them, but then that just means that when they are posted whole, they will be so much better because I probably won't remember them as well. I'll get to read them with fresh eyes and appreciated them all over again.

I hope that reviewer is happy now though. Running his or her mouth got the story completely gone.
singedbylife
singedbylife at 2012-06-07 18:16 (UTC) (Link)
I think you were right to be angry.

I fully understand and approve of your decision to take the unfinished stories down from FF-net!

But I am very, very happy that some of your unfinished stories can still be found here.

Personally, I just love to reread DUST and just be happy with the knowledge that it is very likely that someday there will be more to read in this wonderful tale. And your stories are YOUR stories! You are an incredibly talented story teller and no one can or should continue your work. The ideas, the plot, everything in your stories belongs solely to YOU!

Thank you once again for just being you.
Knife Edge
knifeedgefic at 2012-06-07 22:36 (UTC) (Link)
I have absolutely no plans to take DUST down, ever. NO matter how long it takes me to finish it. This is a story I want to finish like nothing else I've ever written, and it WILL get finished. In the meantime, it's up here and also on Elysian Fields and the Bloodshedverse archives.
Jenn
azurina at 2012-06-07 18:54 (UTC) (Link)
OH. MY. GOD.

*jaw drops*

We the public on fanfiction claim ownership? Donating its creative entirety?

As an attorney and writer, this pisses me off in every way possible and it's not even my work so no, I don't think you overreacted. This person desperately needs a lesson in common sense. You can't "donate" something you don't own or "claim ownership" of something that already belongs to someone else. It's called stealing.

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